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MySpace vs. Facebook: White Flight in Cyberspace?

Posted by Mike E on January 4, 2010

This is a draft version of an academic piece, scheduled to appear in the Digital Race Anthology (edited by Lisa Nakamura and Peter Chow­‐White, Routledge Press).

Questions are posed: What does that reveal about continuing racism in U.S. society — and what might that mean for social connections, anti-racism and more?

White Flight in Networked Publics?

How Race & Class Shaped American Teen Engagement with MySpace & Facebook

by danah boyd

(Microsoft Research and Harvard Berkman Center for Internet and Society zephoria@zephoria.org. Originally published in pdf version on www.danah.org)

In a historic small town outside Boston, I interviewed a group of teens at a small charter school that included middle-­‐class students seeking an alternative to the public school and poorer students who were struggling in traditional schools.

There, I met Kat, a white 14-­‐year-­‐old from a comfortable background.

We were talking about the social media practices of her classmates when I asked her why most of her friends were moving from MySpace to Facebook. Kat grew noticeably uncomfortable.

She began simply, noting that “MySpace is just old now and it’s boring.”

But then she paused, looked down at the table, and continued.

“It’s not really racist, but I guess you could say that. I’m not really into racism, but I think that MySpace now is more like ghetto or whatever.” – Kat

On that spring day in 2007, Kat helped me finally understand a pattern that I had been noticing throughout that school year.

Teen preference for MySpace or Facebook went beyond simple consumer choice; it reflected a reproduction of social
categories that exist in schools throughout the United States. Because race, ethnicity, and socio-­‐economic status shape social categories (Eckert, 1989), the choice between MySpace and Facebook became racialized. This got reinforced as teens chose to self-­‐segregate across the two sites, just as they do in schools.

After Kat told me that MySpace was “like ghetto,” I asked her if people at her school were still using MySpace and she hesitantly said yes. Her discomfort in discussing the topic was palpable and it became clear that she didn’t know how to talk about race or the social divisions she recognized in her school.

“The people who use MySpace -­-­ again, not in a racist way -­-­ but are usually more like ghetto and hip hop rap lovers group.” – Kat

In trying to distinguish those who use MySpace from those who use Facebook, Kat uses a combination of spatial referents and taste markers that she knows have racial overtones.

While Kat does not identify as a racist, her life and social world are shaped by race. Her small school is divided, with poorer students and teens of color in different classes than the white students from wealthier backgrounds. Kat’s friends are primarily white and her classes and activities are primarily filled with white students.

Kat’s use of the term “ghetto” simultaneously references spatial and taste-­‐based connotations.

On the one hand, the ghetto is a part of a city historically defined by race and class (Wacquant, 1997).

On the other hand, being ghetto refers to a set of tastes that emerged as poor people of color developed fashion and cultural artifacts that proudly expressed their identity. Just as physical spaces and tastes are organized around and shaped by race and class, so too are digital environments.

This article explores a division that emerged between MySpace and Facebook among American teens during the 2006-­‐2007 school year.

At the beginning of the year, a common question in American schools was: “Are you on MySpace?”

By the end of the year, the question had shifted to “MySpace or Facebook?”

As Facebook started gaining momentum, some teenagers switched from MySpace to Facebook. Others joined Facebook without having ever been on MySpace. Still others chose to adopt both.

During this period, MySpace did not lose traction. Teens continued to flock to the site, opting for MySpace in lieu of or in addition to Facebook. To complicate matters more, some teens who had initially adopted MySpace began to switch to Facebook.

Slowly, a distinction emerged.

Those who adopted MySpace were from different backgrounds and had different norms and values than those who adopted Facebook. White and more affluent individuals were more likely to choose and move to Facebook. Even before statistical data was available, the language teens used to describe each site and its users revealed how the division had a race and class dimension to it.

Given these dynamics and Kat’s notion of MySpace as a ghetto, one way to interpret the division that unfolded is through the lens of white flight. In essence, many of the same underlying factors that shaped white city dwellers’ exodus to the suburbs – institutional incentives and restrictions, fear and anxiety, social networks, and racism – also contribute to why some teens were more likely to depart than others.

What distinguishes adoption of MySpace and Facebook among American teens is not cleanly about race or class, although both are implicated in the story at every level.

The division can be seen through the lens of taste and aesthetics, two value-­‐laden elements that are deeply entwined with race and class.

It can also be seen through the network structures of teen friendship, which are also directly connected to race and class.

And it can be seen through the language that teens – and adults – use to describe these sites, language like Kat’s that rely on racial tropes to distinguish the sites and their users. The notion that MySpace may be understood as a digital ghetto introduces an analytic opportunity to explore the divisions between MySpace and Facebook – and namely, the movement of some teens from MySpace to Facebook – in light of the historic urban tragedy produced by white flight.

Drawing parallels between these two events sheds light on how people’s engagement with technology reveals social divisions and the persistence of racism. The data and analysis used in this article stems from four years of ethnographic fieldwork examining the role that social media play in the everyday lives of American teens (boyd, 2008). From 2004-­‐2009, I interviewed and observed teens in diverse communities across 17 different states, spent over 2,000 hours observing online practices, and analyzed 10,000 randomly selected MySpace profiles. The quotes in this article stem from both online data and a subset of the 103 formal semi-­‐structured interviews I conducted. I also use online commentary about this division, including blog comments and news articles. My argument is not a statistical one, although Hargittai (this volume) documented that a division is visible in statistical data. Rather, I illustrate how distinctions in social network site adoption and the perceptions teens – and adults – have about these sites and their users reflect broader narratives of race and class in American society.

Teen Adoption of MySpace and Facebook

The origins of social network sites did not begin with MySpace and Facebook (boyd and Ellison, 2007), but these sites emerged as the two most popular social network sites in the United States.

MySpace launched in 2003 on the heels of Friendster, an earlier social network site that was notably popular among 20-­‐30-­‐something urban dwellers in major urban U.S. cities. Although individual teenagers joined MySpace early on, teens became a visible demographic on the site in 2004. Most early adopter teens learned about MySpace through one of two paths: bands or older family members.

Teens who learned of MySpace through bands primarily followed indie rock music or hip-­‐hop, the two genres most popular on MySpace early on. MySpace allowed teens to connect with and follow their favorite bands. Early adopter teens who were not into music primarily learned about the site from a revered older sibling or cousin who was active in late-­‐night culture. For these teens, MySpace was cool because cool elders thought so.

Teenagers who joined MySpace began proselytizing the site to their friends. Given its popularity among musicians and late-­‐night socialites, joining MySpace became a form of (sub)cultural capital. Teens, especially those in urban settings, tend to look to the 20 to 30-­‐something crowd for practices that they can emulate. MySpace’s early popularity among teens was tightly entwined with its symbolic reference to maturity, status, and freedom in the manner espoused by urban late-­‐night culture. While teens often revere the risky practices of a slightly older cohort, many adults work to actively dissuade them from doing so. By propagating and glorifying 20-­something urban cultural practices and values, MySpace managed to alienate
parents early on. With little mass media coverage of MySpace before News Corporation acquired the company in mid-­‐2005, many teens learned of the site through word-­‐of-­‐mouth networks, namely friends at school, church, activities, and summer camp, as well as from older family members. Given its inception in the Los Angeles region, West Coast teens found MySpace before East Coast teens, and urban teens joined before suburban or rural teens. The media coverage that followed the acquisition further escalated growth among teens.

Immediately after News Corporation bought MySpace, much of the media coverage focused on the bands. After adults began realizing how popular MySpace was with teens, news media became obsessed with teen participation and the potential dangers they faced (Marwick, 2008). This media coverage was both a blessing and a curse for MySpace. On one hand, some teens joined the site because media sold it as both fashionable among teens and despised by parents. On the other hand, some teens avoided joining because of the perceived risks and parents began publicly demonizing the site.

As MySpace simultaneously appealed to and scared off U.S. teens, other social network sites started gaining traction with different demographics. Most did not appeal to teenagers en masse, although niche groups of teens did join many different sites. In 2004, Facebook launched, targeting college students. Originally, access to Facebook was intentionally limited. Facebook started as a Harvard-­‐only social network site before expanding to support all Ivy League schools and then top-­‐ tier colleges and then a wider array of colleges. Because of its background, some saw Facebook as an “elite” social network site. The “highbrow” aura of Facebook appealed to some potential participants while repelling others.

The college-­‐centered nature of Facebook quickly appealed to those teenagers who saw college, and thus Facebook access, as a rite of passage. They were aware of the site through older family members and friends who had already graduated high school and gone off to college. Before access became readily available, college-­‐bound teens began coveting entrance. For many, access to the social world of college became a marker of status and maturity. Even those who had MySpace accounts relished the opportunity to gain access to the college-­‐only Facebook as a rite of passage. In September 2005, Facebook began slowly supporting high schools. While this gave some teens access, the processes in place for teens to join and be validated were challenging, creating a barrier to entry for many potential participants. Those who managed to join were often from wealthier schools where the validation process was more solidified or quite motivated – typically because they wanted to communicate with close friends in college. Facebook finally opened access to all in September 2006. Sparking a wave of teen adoption, this is the origin point of teens self-­‐sorting into MySpace and Facebook.

The segment of teens that initially flocked to Facebook was quite different from those who were early adopters of MySpace. Yet, in both cases, the older early adopters shaped early teen engagement, both in terms of influencing adoption and defining the norms.

As teens engaged, they developed their own norms stemming from those set forth by the people they already knew on the site.

While plenty of teens chose to participate on both sites, I began noticing that those teens who chose one or the other appeared to come from different backgrounds. Subculturally identified teens appeared more frequently drawn to MySpace while more mainstream teens tended towards Facebook. Teens from less-­‐privileged backgrounds seemed likely to be drawn to MySpace while those headed towards elite universities appeared to be head towards Facebook. Racial and ethnic divisions looked messier, tied strongly to socio-­‐economic factors, but I observed that black and Latino teens appeared to preference MySpace while white and Asian teens seemed to privilege Facebook.

In observing these patterns in multiple communities in the US, I found myself uncertain as to whether or not they could be generalized. Certainly, there were exceptions to each pattern. Still, I felt as the pattern was significant. This prompted me to write an essay on my blog where I mapped out what I observed (boyd, 2007a). Thanks to coverage from the BBC and many popular bloggers, my essay went viral, sparking debate, outrage, and controversy. It also sparked researchers to approach me with data confirming similar patterns.

Analysts at two unnamed marketing research firms contacted me to say that they witnessed similar patterns with youth at a national level but they were unable to publicly discuss or publish their finding, but scholars and bloggers were more willing to share their findings. Using survey data collected from a freshman class at a diverse Midwest college, Eszter Hargittai (2007) found that parental education as well as race and ethnicity were significant predictors of social network site choice. White and Asian students as well as those whose parents had higher levels of education were overrepresented on Facebook while Hispanic students and those whose parents did not have a high school degree were more likely to use MySpace.

African-­‐American college students were not more likely to use Facebook or MySpace. While Hargittai’s findings with college freshman reflect a similar trend to my observations with high school-­‐age teens, it is important to note that college participation itself is shaped by racial and socio-­‐economic inequalities and that Facebook was initially a tool for college students. Thus, Facebook may well be overrepresented in Hargittai’s data and college-­‐age populations not attending college may have different preferences. Taking a different approach, blogger Chuck Lam (2007a; 2007b) examined the social network site habits of students from 15 schools in San Francisco based on their rating at GreatSchools, finding that students from higher ranked schools were more active on Facebook while those from lower ranked schools were more active on MySpace.

Two years later, marketing research firm Nielsen Claritas reported that wealthy individuals are 25% more likely to use Facebook while less affluent individuals are 37% more likely to be on MySpace (Hare, 2009). In the same year, S. Craig Watkins (2009) published his qualitative and survey data with college students, revealing a racial and ethnic division in preference as well as anti-­‐MySpace attitudes by collegiate Facebook users that parallel those of high school students.

While there is no definitive longitudinal statistical data tracking the division amongst teens, these studies provide a valuable backdrop to the perceptions teens have about the sites and their users.

The Organization of Teen Friendship

There’s an old saying that “birds of a feather flock together.”

Personal networks tend to be rather homogeneous, as people are more likely to befriend those like them.

Sociologists refer to the practice of connecting with like-­‐minded individuals as “homophily.”

Studies have accounted for homophily in sex and gender, age, religion, education-­‐level, occupation, and social class, but nowhere is homophily more strongly visible in the U.S. than in the divides along racial and ethnic lines (McPherson, Smith-­‐Lovin, and Cook, 2001). The reasons behind the practice of homophily and the resultant social divisions are complex, rooted in a history of inequality, bigotry, and oppression and stemming from the complexity of the political economy and structural constraints in American life.

Youth often self-­‐segregate by race, even in diverse schools (Moody, 2001; Thorne 2008). While it is easy to lament racial segregation in friendships, there are also social and psychological benefits to racial and ethnic clustering. Tatum (1997) argues that self-­‐segregation is a logical response to the systematized costs of racism; connecting along lines of race and ethnicity can help youth feel a sense of belonging, enhance identity development, and help youth navigate systematic racism. Still, as Bonilla-­‐Silva (2003) has highlighted, people’s willingness to accept and, thus expect, self-­‐segregation may have problematic roots and contribute to ongoing racial inequality.

When I asked teens why race defines their friendships, they typically shrugged and told me that it’s just the way it is. As Traviesa, a Hispanic 15-­‐year-­‐old from Los Angeles, explained,

“If it comes down to it, we have to supposedly stick with our own races. … That’s just the unwritten code of high school nowadays.” – Traviesa

Race was not an issue only in major metropolitan communities. Heather, a white 16-­‐ year-­‐old in Iowa, told me that her school was not segregated, but then she went on to mark people by race, noting that, “the black kids are such troublemakers.” This conflicting message –refusing to talk about race explicitly while employing racial language in conversation – was common in my interviews as well as those of other scholars (Pollock, 2005). While there was no formal segregation in Heather’s school, like the de facto residential segregation that continues to operate in many American cities, the black teens in her predominantly white school stuck together socially and were stereotyped by the white teens.

Another way of looking at teen friendships is through the lens of social categories and group labels. Many of the teens I interviewed had language to demarcate outcasts (e.g., “gothics,” “nerds,” “Dirty Kids,” etc.) and identify groups of peers by shared activity (e.g., “band kids,” “art kids,” “cheerleaders,” etc.). Often, labels come with a set of stereotypes. For example, Heather explained:

“You’ve got the pretties, which are the girls that tan all the time. They put on excessive makeup. They wear the short skirts, the revealing shirts, that kind of things. Then you’ve got the guys who are kind of like that, dumb as rocks by the way.” – Heather

Youth subcultures can be seen as an extension of social categories; what differentiates them typically concerns identification. While teens often identify with particular subcultures, social categories are more frequently marked by others. Social categories serve to mark groups and individuals based on shared identities. In her seminal text on the topic, Penelope Eckert (1989) highlighted that membership in social groups is not random. Social categories develop in ways that reproduce social distinctions. While Eckert focuses her analysis on the class distinctions embedded in the labels “jocks” and “burnouts,” work on children and youth in schools also reveals that racial divisions in schools are also marked through labels and social categories (Thorne 2008). Unlike class, race and ethnicity are often made visible – albeit, blurred – in the labels youth use. In my fieldwork, I found that clearly dominant racial groups went unmarked, but labels like “the blacks,” “the Chinese people,” “the Hispanics,” “the Mexicans,” “the white people,” and so forth were regularly employed to define social groupings. In other cases, and in part because they are aware that using such categories could be perceived as racist, teens used substitutes that more implicitly mark race and class-­‐based difference. For example, the word “urban” signals “black” when referring to a set of tastes or practices. Similarly, some of the labels teens use have racial implications, such as “Dirty Kids”, “gangstas”, and “terrorists”. While not all Dirty Kids are white, not all gangstas are black, and not all terrorists are of Middle Eastern descent, they are overwhelmingly linked in teens’ minds. Race and class are also often blurred, especially in situations where the logic of stratification may not be understood by teens but appears visible through skin color.

As much of the literature on youth in educational contexts has revealed (Thorne, 1993; Eckert, 1989; Perry, 2002), social categories and race-­‐based labels are also used to mark physical turf in the lunchroom and beyond. Often, this becomes a way in which youth self-­‐segregate. Keke, a 16-­‐year-­‐old black girl in Los Angeles, described in detail where students in her racially diverse school physically gathered during lunch and between classes:

“The hallways is full of the Indians, and the people of Middle Eastern decent. They in the hallways and by the classrooms. The Latinos, they all lined up on this side. The blacks is by the cafeteria and the quad. … Then the outcasts, like the uncool Latinos or uncool Indians, the uncool whites, they scattered.” – Keke

Each ethnic and racial group had its gathering spot, but only one had a name:

“Disneyland” is an area in the public yard where “the white people” gathered. While Keke is probably unaware that Disneyland is, as Avila (2004: 3) puts it, “the archetypical example of a postwar suburban order,” the notion that students in an urban Los Angeles school label the turf where white people gather by referencing the Orange County suburban theme park known for its racial and ethnic caricatures is nonetheless poignant.

Like the school yard, online environments are often organized by identity and social categories. In some cases, this is explicit. Social network sites like Black Planet, Asian Avenue, and MiGente explicitly target audiences based on race and ethnicity. Many who participate in these communities struggle with what it means to be in a public space driven by race, what boundaries should exist, how to manage racism, and other race and ethnicity-­‐driven dialogues (Byrne, 2008).

While neither MySpace nor Facebook are explicitly defined in terms of race, they too are organized by race.

Most participants self-­‐segregate when connecting with their pre-­‐existing networks without been fully aware of the social divisions that unfold. Yet, when teens are asked explicitly about who participates where, racial terms emerge.
The Network Effects of MySpace and Facebook Adoption 16

Like school lunchrooms and malls, social network sites are another space where youth gather to socialize with peers (boyd, 2007b). Teens joined social network sites to be with their friends. Given social divisions in both friendship patterns and social spaces, it is unsurprising that online communities reflect everyday social divisions. Yet, unlike prior genres where teens collectively used similar tools but segmented their interactions, their engagement with social network sites spanned two sites – MySpace and Facebook.

Teens provide a variety of different explanations for why they chose MySpace or Facebook.

Some argued that it was a matter of personal preference having to do with the features or functionality.

For example, Jordan, a biracial Mexican-­‐white 15-­‐ year-­‐old from Austin prefers Facebook because it allows unlimited photos.

Conversely, Anindita, an Indian 17-­‐year-­‐old from Los Angeles values MySpace’s creative features:

“Facebook’s easier than MySpace but MySpace is more complex… You can add music, make backgrounds and layouts, but Facebook is just plain white and that’s it.” -­‐ Anindita

Teens also talked about their perception of the two sites in relation to their values and goals.

Cachi, an 18-­‐year-­‐old Puerto Rican girl from Iowa uses both MySpace and Facebook, but she sees them differently:

“Facebook is less competitive than MySpace. It doesn’t have the Top 8 thing or anything like that, or the background thing.” – Cachi

Safety – or rather the perception of safety – also emerged as a central factor in teen preference.

While teens believed Facebook was safer, they struggled to explain why. Tara, a Vietnamese 16-­‐year-­‐old from Michigan said,

“[Facebook] kind of seemed safer, but I don’t know like what would make it safer, like what main thing. But like, I don’t know, it just seems like everything that people say, it seems safer.” – Tara

Teens’ fear of MySpace as ‘unsafe’ undoubtedly stems from the image portrayed by the media, but it also suggests a fear of the ‘other.’

By far, the most prominent explanation teens gave for choosing one or the other is the presence of their friends.

Teens choose to use the social network site that their friends use. Kevin, a white 15-­‐year-­‐old in Seattle, explains:

“I’m not big on Facebook; I’m a MySpace guy. I have a Facebook and I have some friends on it, but most of my friends don’t check it that often so I don’t check it that often.” – Kevin

When teens choose to adopt both, what distinguishes one from the other often reflects distinct segments of their social network.

For example, Red, a white 17-­‐ year-­‐old from Iowa has a profile on both sites, but

“the only reason I still have my MySpace is because my brother’s on there.” – Red

Even teens who prefer the features and functionality of one site use the other when that’s where their friends are. Connor, a white 17-­‐year-­‐old from Atlanta, says that he personally prefers MySpace because there’s “too much going on” on Facebook.

“It’s like hug me and poke me… what does that even mean?” – Connor

Yet, Connor signs into Facebook much more frequently than MySpace “because everybody’s on Facebook.”

Social network site adoption took the form of a social contagion spreading through pre-­‐existing peer networks.

For some teens, the presence of just one friend was enough of an incentive to participate; others only joined once many of their friends were present. Once inside, teens encouraged their friends to participate. MySpace and Facebook have network effects: they are more valuable when more friends participate. Some teens went so far as to create accounts for resistant friends in order to move the process along (boyd, 2008).

As word of each site spread, adoption hopped from social group to social group through pre-­‐existing networks for teens.

In choosing to go where their friends were, teens began to self-­‐segregate along the same lines that shape their social relations more broadly: race and ethnicity, socio-­‐economic status, education goals, lifestyle, subcultural affiliation, social categories, etc.

Tastes, Aesthetics, and Social Status

For many teens, embracing MySpace or Facebook is seen as a social necessity.

Which site is “cool” depends on one’s cohort.

Milo, an Egyptian 15-­‐year-­‐old from Los Angeles, joined MySpace because it was “the thing” in his peer group but another girl from the same school, Korean 17-­‐year-­‐old Seong, told me that Facebook was the preferred site among her friends.

What is socially acceptable and desirable differs across social groups.

One’s values and norms are strongly linked with one’s identity membership. When working class individuals eschew middle class norms in preference for the norms and expectations of their community, they reproduce social class (Willis, 1981; Gaines, 1998). The idea that working class individuals should adopt middle class norms is fundamentally a middle class notion; for many working class individuals, the community and its support trump potential upwards mobility. Norms also differ across racial and ethnic groups and are reinforced as people of color seek to identify with their racial and ethnic background (Tatum, 1997).

While what is seen as cool can be differentiated by group, there is also a faddish nature to the process.

Seong preferred Facebook because it was “exclusive.”

She moved from Xanga to MySpace to Facebook as each new site emerged, preferring to adopt what was new rather than stay on a site as it became widely embraced.

Conversely, white 15-­‐year-­‐old Summer from Michigan rejected the idea of switching to Facebook simply because it was new. She preferred to be where her peers were, but she noted that the “designer class of people” in her school joined Facebook because they felt the need to have “the latest thing.”

In this way, subcultural capital influenced the early adoption of Facebook; it was fashionable to some simply because of its newness.

The construction of “cool” is fundamentally about social status among youth (Milner, 2004). Teenagers both distinguish themselves through practices of consumption, fashion, and attitudes and assess others through these markers (Shankar, 2008; Hebdige 1979).

Yet, neither tastes nor attitudes nor cultural consumption practices are adopted randomly. Race and class shape practices and the social agendas around race and class also drive them (Crane, 2000). Taste also serves as a mechanism and marker of distinction, and people’s tastes are rooted in class distinctions (Bourdieu, 1984).

While both Bourdieu and Hebdige argue that those from lower social positions are defining their tastes in opposition to hegemonic structures, what constitutes “cool” is also localized, differing across social categories, geography, and groups. Consumption practices and fashion that denote high status in some groups may be meaningless elsewhere. In this way, teens often traffic in what Sarah Thornton (1995) calls “subcultural capital” even when they themselves are not subculturally identified. Markers of status can be locally defined and may have more to do with information access or media consumption than consumption of physical goods. Furthermore, discussions of and connection to those with access to valued consumer objects may also be valuable in and of itself, resulting with what Shankar (2008) calls “metaconsumption.” Online, status markers take on new form but in ways that are reminiscent of offline practices. For example, the public articulation of connections on social network sites is a way of visibly marking oneself in relation to others and their status (Donath and boyd, 2004).

In an environment where profiles serve as “digital bodies” (boyd, 2008), profile personalization can be seen a form of digital fashion. Teens’ Facebook and MySpace profiles reflect their taste, identity, and values (Donath, 2007).

Through the use of imagery and textual self-­‐expressions, teens make race, class, and other identity markers visible. As Nakamura (2008) has argued, even in the most constrained online environments, participants will use what’s available to them to reveal identity information in ways that make race and other identity elements visible.

In describing what was desirable about the specific sites, teens often turned to talk about aesthetics and profile personalization. Teens’ aesthetics shaped their attitudes towards each site. In essence, the “glitter” produced by those who “pimp
out” their MySpaces is seen by some in a positive light while others see it as “gaudy,” “tacky,” and “cluttered.” While Facebook fans loved the site’s aesthetic minimalism, others viewed this tone as “boring,” “lame,” and “elitist.” Catalina, a white 15-­‐year-­‐ old from Austin, told me that Facebook is better because

“Facebook just seems more clean to me.” – Catalina

What Catalina sees as cleanliness, Indian 17-­‐year-­‐old Anindita from Los Angeles, labels simplicity; she recognizes the value of simplicity, but she prefers the “bling” of MySpace because it allows her to express herself.

The extensive options for self-­‐expression are precisely what annoy some teens. Craig Pelletier, a 17-­‐year-­‐old from California, complained that,

“these tools gave MySpacers the freedom to annoy as much as they pleased. Facebook was nice because it stymied such annoyance, by limiting individuality. Everyone’s page looked pretty much the same, but you could still look at pictures of each other. The MySpace crowd felt caged and held back because they weren’t able to make their page unique.” – Craig

Craig believes the desire to personalize contributed to his peers’ division between MySpace and Facebook.

In choosing how to express themselves, teens must account for what they wish to signal. Teens are drawn to styles that signal their identities and social groups. Due to a technical glitch, MySpace enabled users to radically shape the look and feel of their profiles while Facebook enforced a strict minimalism. To the degree that each site supports profile personalization in different ways, identity and self-­‐presentation are affected.

While some are drawn to the ability to radically shape their profiles to their liking, others prefer an enforced cleanness.

Teens who preferred MySpace lamented the limited opportunities for creative self-­‐ expression on Facebook, but those who preferred Facebook were much more derogatory about the style of profiles in MySpace. Not only did Facebook users not find MySpace profiles attractive, they argued that the styles produced by MySpace users were universally ugly. While Facebook’s minimalism is not inherently better, conscientious restraint has been one marker of bourgeois fashion (Arnold 2001). On the contrary, the flashy style that is popular on MySpace is often marked in relation to “bling-­‐bling,” a style of conspicuous consumption that is associated with urban black culture and hip-­‐hop. To some, bling and flashy MySpace profiles are beautiful and creative; to others, these styles are garish. While style preference is not inherently about race and class, the specific styles referenced have racial overtones and socio-­‐economic implications. In essence, although teens are talking about style, they are functionally navigating race and class.

Taste is also performed directly through profiles; an analysis of “taste statements” in MySpace combined with the friend network reveals that distinctions are visible there (Liu, 2007).

The importance of music to MySpace made it a visible vector of taste culture. Youth listed their musical tastes on their profiles and attached songs to their pages. While many genres of music were present on MySpace, hip-­‐hop stood out, both because of its salience amongst youth and because of its racial connotations. Although youth of all races and ethnicities listen to hip-­‐hop, it is most commonly seen as a genre that stems from black culture inside urban settings. Narratives of the ghetto and black life dominate the lyrics of hip-­‐hop and the genre also serves as a source of pride and authenticity in communities that are struggling for agency in American society (Forman, 2002). For some, participating in this taste culture is a point of pride; for others, this genre and the perceived attitudes that go with it are viewed as offensive. Although MySpace was never about hip-­‐hop, its mere presence became one way in which detractors marked the site.

Taste and aesthetics are not universal, but deeply linked to identity and values. The choice of certain cultural signals or aesthetics appeals to some while repelling others. Often, these taste distinctions are shaped by class and race and, thus, the choice to mark Facebook and MySpace through the language of taste and aesthetics reflect race and class.

A Networked Exodus

After posting my controversial blog essay about the distinction between MySpace and Facebook, teens began to contact me with their own stories. Anastasia, a 17-­‐ year-­‐old from New York, emailed me to explain that it wasn’t simply a matter of choice between the two sites; many of her peers simply moved from MySpace to Facebook. Until now, I have focused on the choice that teens make to adopt MySpace or Facebook.

But Anastasia’s right: there is also movement as teens choose to leave one social network site and go to the other.

By and large, teens did not leave Facebook and go to MySpace.

Rather, a subset of teens left MySpace to go to Facebook.

This can be partially explained as an issue of fads, with teens leaving MySpace to go to the “new” thing.

But even if this alone could explain the transition, it does not explain why some teens were more likely to switch than others. Anastasia argues that, at least in her school, who participated can be understood in terms of social categories:

“My school is divided into the ‘honors kids,’ (I think that is self-­explanatory), the ‘good not-­so-­honors kids,’ ‘wangstas,’ (they pretend to be tough and black but when you live in a suburb in Westchester you can’t claim much hood), the ‘latinos/hispanics,’ (they tend to band together even though they could fit into any other groups) and the ‘emo kids’ (whose lives are allllllways filled with woe). We were all in MySpace with our own little social networks but when Facebook opened its doors to high schoolers, guess who moved and guess who stayed behind… The first two groups were the first to go and then the ‘wangstas’ split with half of them on Facebook and the rest on MySpace… I shifted with the rest of my school to Facebook and it became the place where the ‘honors kids’ got together and discussed how they were procrastinating over their next AP English essay.” – Anastasia

The social categories Anastasia uses reflect racial, ethnic, and class divisions in her school.

Anastasia’s description highlights how structural divisions in her school define what plays out on MySpace and Facebook.

Movement from MySpace to Facebook further magnifies already existing distinctions. In California, 17-­‐year-­‐old Craig blogged about the movement in his school, using the language of taste, class, and hierarchy.

“The higher castes of high school moved to Facebook. It was more cultured, and less cheesy. The lower class usually were content to stick to MySpace. Any high school student who has a Facebook will tell you that MySpace users are more likely to be barely educated and obnoxious. Like Peet’s is more cultured than Starbucks, and Jazz is more cultured than bubblegum pop, and like Macs are more cultured than PC’s, Facebook is of a cooler caliber than MySpace.” – Craig

In his description, Craig distinguishes between what he sees as highbrow and lowbrow cultural tastes, using consumption patterns to differentiate classes of people and describe them in terms of a hierarchy. By employing the term “caste,” Craig uses a multicultural metaphor with ethnic and racial connotations that runs counter to the supposed class mobility available in U.S. society.

In doing so, he’s locating his peers in immutable categories and tying tastes to them.

While Craig may not have intended to imply this, his choice of the term “caste” is nonetheless interesting.
These two accounts provide insight into who left, but they don’t account for why. To get at why, we must start by considering how MySpace’s cultural position shifted during this period. The following is a descriptive portrait of a series of relevant events that contributed to teen departure. It is an oversimplified account based on my fieldnotes during that period. MySpace was once the cultural center for youth culture.

As it grew increasingly popular, a moral panic emerged over the potential risks of sexual predators (Marwick, 2008).

While the risks were overblown (Shrock and boyd, 2009), fear spread. Involved parents – typically from more educated and wealthier communities – began looking closer and they didn’t like what they saw. While my examination of MySpace profiles revealed that more teens referenced God, Jesus, bible quotes, and other religious symbols than uploaded scantily clad self-­‐images, parents typically assumed that the latter dominated MySpace and this upset them. Furthermore, these parents were often horrified by the practices of the urban 20somethings, especially those from different cultural backgrounds who appeared to have different moral codes.

The media helped produced a techno-­‐panic, often by leveraging adult fears of urban black signals such as bling and hip-­‐hop.

Even though most teens were primarily socializing with their peers, some parents feared that the presence of and potential exposure to different and, presumably, deviant practices might corrupt their children. In short, they did not see MySpace as “safe” and they did not want their children communing with people they would not approve of them associating with elsewhere. Fear drove some parents to banish MySpace. Teens who were forced to leave were more likely to come from households where their parents were involved in monitoring their kids’ online behaviors but were not themselves on MySpace. They were less likely to have siblings, cousins, and other family members present in MySpace. In short, the teens who were forced to leave tended to come from more privileged backgrounds. Their disappearance fractured their friends’ networks, reducing the value of MySpace.

Amidst this, MySpace failed to address the problems presented by spammers and scammers.

Teens started receiving an onslaught of friend requests from scammers and their accounts started getting hacked due to security flaws introduced when users started copying and pasting layout code into profile forms. Given their penchant for vibrant profiles and willingness to track down code, youth were especially vulnerable. Because of the widespread technopanic, many of the teens I interviewed who left MySpace read these security attacks as proof of the presence of sexual predators and other “creepy” people.

Those whose friend networks on MySpace were already fractured were most inclined to leave.

The emergence of Facebook hastened this process. Many parents saw Facebook as a “safe” alternative to MySpace, primarily because it was not possible to make a profile truly public. (Arguably, making a profile visible to everyone in a geographic region is akin to being public.) Adults did not see the same signals on Facebook that frightened them. Many reinforced the spatial and racial distinctions by demonizing MySpace and embracing Facebook. Countless teens who were not allowed on MySpace were permitted to join Facebook. Teens who had friends in college were especially quick to join. With an alternative in place, many who were doubtful of MySpace or whose friends had departed switched.

Concerns about MySpace and safety were widespread, but how people responded varied. Many teens made their profiles private or friends-­‐only, but others left or were forced to leave because of the fear. As they departed, their friends were more likely to go as well because of the importance of social cohesion. Many of those who left joined Facebook. The same network effects that motivated teens to join MySpace hastened their departure.

The early departers were not evenly distributed across the network.

The factors that prompted or forced some teens to leave and the factors that minimized their incentives to stay affected certain groups of teen more than others. In short, teens from privileged backgrounds were more likely to defect. This helped create the impressions that Anastasia and Craig described.

MySpace: A Digital Ghetto?

One provocative way of reflecting on the networked movement from MySpace to Facebook is through the lens of “white flight.”

The term “white flight” refers to the exodus of white people from urban American centers to the suburbs during the 20th century. This simplistic definition obscures the racial motivations of those who left, the institutionalized discrimination that restricted others from leaving, and the ramifications for cities and race relations (Kruse, 2005).

Many who left did so to avoid racial integration in communities and schools. Not everyone could leave. Although the suburbs were touted as part of the “American Dream,” black families were often barred directly explicitly by ethnically exclusive restrictions on housing developments or indirectly by discriminatory lending practices (Massey & Denton, 1998). Suburbs were zoned to limit low-­‐income housing and rentals, thereby limiting who could afford to move there. What followed was urban decay. Governmental agencies reduced investments in urban communities, depopulation lowered property values and shrunk tax bases, and unemployment rose as jobs moved to the suburbs.

The resultant cities were left in disrepair and the power of street gangs increased. Through “white flight,” racial identities were reworked as spaces were reconfigured (Harris, 2007; Avila, 2004; Massey & Denton, 1998).

Given the formalized racism and institutionalized restrictions involved in urban white flight, labeling teen movement from MySpace to Facebook as “digital white flight” may appear to be a problematic overstatement. My goal is not to dismiss or devalue the historic tragedy that white racism brought to many cities, but to offer a stark framework for seeing the reproduction of social divisions in a society still shaped by racism. Consider the parallels. In some senses, the first teens to move to the “suburbs” were those who bought into a Teen Dream of collegiate maturity, namely those who were expressly headed towards dorm-­‐based universities and colleges. They were the elite who were given land in the new suburbs before plots were broadly available. The suburbs of Facebook signaled more mature living, complete with digital fences to
keep out strangers. The narrative that these digital suburbs were safer than the city enhanced its desirability, particularly for those who had no interest in interacting with people who were different.

Some teens were moved because of the policies of their parents. Early settlers incentivized their friends to join them.

While formal restrictions on who could move lifted in September 2006, the more subtle network-­‐ based disincentives did not.

Those teens whose family and friends were deeply enmeshed in the city of MySpace were less inclined to leave for the suburbs.

Those who left the city often left their profiles untended and they often fell into disrepair, covered in digital graffiti. This contributed to a sense of eeriness, but also hastened the departure of their neighbors.

As MySpace failed to address these issues, spammers took over like street gangs.

What resulted can be understood as a digital ghetto. Needless to say, the frame of “white flight” only partially works, but the metaphor provides a fertile backdrop to address the kinds of language I heard by youth. It also provides a fruitful framework for thinking of the fear and moral panic surrounding MySpace. Fear of risk and perception of safety are salient in discussions of ghettos.

Many whites fled the city, believing it crime-­‐ridden, immoral, and generally unsafe. While outsiders are rarely targets of violence in the inner-­‐city, the perception of danger is widespread and the suburbs are commonly narrated as the safe
alternative.

The same holds for MySpace.

Fears concerning risks on MySpace are overstated at best and more often outright misunderstood. Yet, they are undoubtedly widespread. In contrast, Facebook’s origin as a gated community and parents’ belief that the site is private and highly monitored reflect the same values signaled by the suburbs.

The network segmentation implied by a “digital white flight” also helps explain why, two years later, news media behaved as though MySpace was dead. Quite simply, white middle-­‐class journalists didn’t know anyone who still used MySpace. On May 4, 2009, the New York Times ran a story showing that MySpace and Facebook usage in the U.S. had nearly converged (with Facebook lagging slightly behind MySpace); the title for this article was “Do You Know Anyone Still on MySpace?”

Although the article clearly stated that the unique visitors were roughly equal, the headline signaled the cultural divide.

The New York Times staff was on Facebook and assumed their readers were too. This article generated 154 comments from presumably adult readers. Some defended MySpace, primarily by pointing to its features, the opportunity for connecting, and the cultural relevance of musicians and bands.

Many more condemned MySpace, bemoaning its user interface, spam, and outdated-­‐ness.

Yet, while only two MySpace fans used condescending language to describe Facebook (“Facebook is very childish” and “Facebook is for those who live in the past”), dozens of MySpace critics demeaned MySpace and its users.

Some focused on the perception that MySpace was filled with risky behavior:

“MySpace become synonymous with hyper-­sexual, out of control teens, wild partying 20-­somethings, 30-­40somethings craving attention, sexual predators on the hunt, and generally un-­cool personal behavior from a relatively small, but highly visible number of users.”

Others used labels, stereotypes, and dismissive language to other those who preferred MySpace, often suggesting a class based distinction:

“My impression is that Myspace is for the riffraff and Facebook is for the landed gentry.”

“Compared to Facebook, MySpace just seems like the other side of the tracks – I’ll go there for fun, but I wouldn’t want to live there.”

“my impression is [MySpace is] for tweens, high school kids that write emo poetry, and the proletariat. once the younger demo goes to college, they shift to facebook. the proletariat? everyone knows they never go to college!”

Just as those who moved to the suburbs looked down upon those who remained in the cities, so too did Facebook users demean those on MySpace.

This can be seen in the attitudes of teens I interviewed, the words of these commenters, and the adjectives used by the college students Watkins (2009) interviewed. The language used in these remarks resembles the same language used throughout the 1980s to describe city dwellers: dysfunctional families, perverts and deviants, freaks and outcasts, thieves, and the working class. Implied in this is that no decent person could possibly have a reason to dwell in the city or on MySpace.

While some who didn’t use MySpace were harshly critical of the site, others simply forgot that it existed. They thought it to be irrelevant, believing that no one lived there anymore simply because no one they knew did.

To the degree that some viewed MySpace as a ghetto or as being home to the cultural practices that stem from the ghetto, the same fear and racism that underpinned much of white flight in urban settings is also present in the perception of MySpace. The fact that many teens who left MySpace for Facebook explained their departure as being about features, aesthetics, or friendship networks does not disconnect their departure from issues of race and class. Rather, their attitude towards specific aesthetic markers and features is shaped by their experiences with race and class.

Likewise, friendship networks certainly drove the self-­‐segmentation, but these too are shaped by race such that departure logically played out along race lines.

The explanations teens gave for their decisions may not be explicitly about race, ethnicity, or class, but they cannot be untangled from them. In some senses, the division in the perception and use of MySpace and Facebook seems obvious given that we know that online environments are a reflection of everyday life. Yet, the fact that such statements are controversial highlights a widespread techno-­‐utopian belief that the internet will once and for all eradicate inequality and social divisions. What unfolded as teens adopted MySpace and Facebook suggests that this is not the case.

Neither social media nor its users are colorblind simply because technology is present. The internet mirrors and magnifies everyday life, making visible many of the issues we hoped would disappear, including race and class-­‐based social divisions in American society.

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33 Responses to “MySpace vs. Facebook: White Flight in Cyberspace?”

  1. this is a fascinating piece…

    i highly suspect that the “white flight” the author discusses is actually the other way around… it wasn’t so much that more priveleged people were fleeing myspace but that their relative privilege and superior access to information/technology enabled them to learn about facebook and more quickly migrate away from the fucked architecture of MySpace.

    It’s an example of the “digital divide,” and how that actually plays out within the internet itself.

  2. Eric,

    I have to disagree with you here – as a longtime user of myspace, I really never perceived the architecture to be (as you so eloquently put it) “fucked”.

    I prefer myspace’s “architecture” because you can personalize it, as opposed to facebook where everybody’s page has to look identical.

    So, as with many things in America, the real divide here is racial – there are many people of color on myspace, and they are highly visible (both in numbers and in the distinct style of their myspace pages) and that is what is driving White internet users to the whiter precincts of facebook.

    I suspect twitter will begin having White flight problems in the near future as well, as White users begin to become aware of the many people of color on that site – where, again, as with myspace, you can personalize your page to match your cultural sensibility.

  3. gregT said

    “I prefer myspace’s “architecture” because you can personalize it, as opposed to facebook where everybody’s page has to look identical.”

    actually, in terms of security, you just described why myspace’s architecture is fucked.
    the personalization aspect also keeps down overall web design progress. web 3.0 is not waiting for more sparkle graphics before it shows up on the scene.

  4. BobH said

    I’ve never used either, but I asked my 15-year old nephew (who is white, and lives in a rural area that’s about 99% white) why he preferred FB. He said he liked the fact that the messaging client is easy, you don’t have to worry about incompatible messaging as is the case with MSN, Yahoo messenger, etc. Also he likes the simple interface and doesn’t want to bother with customization. Both those reasons seemed pretty solid to me.

    As a programmer, I know it’s tempting to design intefaces that are themeable, support plugins, etc. but as an end user I find those kind of features pretty much a waste of time. I use KDE for my desktop, which is enormously customizable, and I’ve almost never bothered to fiddle with all the look and feel options; the defaults are usually quite good.

    I don’t get the “white flight” argument. It’s not like a free webpage is going to suffer declining property values because of the “ghetto” pages next door. Who forces anybody to look at somebody else’s page? Are your network “friends” not going to come to your page if it’s in a “bad neighborhood”? How do distinctively-styled pages drive white kids away? It’s not like white kids only wear beige clothes or something.

    What evidence (besides the anecdotal) is there that race is the primary factor in choosing FB over MS? Even the article above mentions the role of spamming in driving people away from MS.

  5. GregT,

    We all have different priorities when it comes to how we use a website.

    To some users, what you call “sparkle graphics” are very important, and take precedence over what you call the “overall web design process” – and, speaking as one of those users, my desire to make my website reflect my personality and worldview is more important to me than whatever problems that may cause the web design team that runs that site.

    In other words, if I can’t personalize my personal home page, that makes the website “fucked”.

  6. Hmmm, ok, this should be a pretty interesting conversation about the internet..

    First and formost, what drives websites like MySpace and Facebook is not that they are about “expressing ourselves” but that are rapidly changing and transforming the mode of communication in society. If the driving force was self-expression, than MySpace and Facebook would have both been left in the dust to other sites that concenrate on those aspects much more directly.

    In fact, Gregory, you have contradicted your own logic with regards to twitter. If the driving force was self-customization, why aren’t white people fleeing twitter? Is what is interesting about twitter really page customizations or is it the dramatic ability of people two find live discussion posted by people on any subject in the world that any user can search? I think this fundamentally misunderstands the internet.

    Further more, is it really true that white middle class people are disinclined towards “self-expression?” Typically, people from more privileged backgrounds are MORE inclined toward self-expression (and many times narcissism).

    But I’d like to point out a few reaasons why I characterized the MySpace framework as being “fucked:”

    1. The policy of chaotic whatever-you-want names made it extremely difficult to find people that you knew.
    2. There was no space on the site that was a “commons” other than the broken bulletin board system.
    3. It was overrun by spam and porn bots, this then lead to the annoying addition of constant CAPTCHAs.
    4. The customizations of pages made them very difficult to navigate, often with people being hacked and having viruses and advertisements embedded into their pages.
    5. Finding individual friends on ones friends list was a hopeless nightmare, especially when you couldn’t search for their name since they changed their name every week.
    6. Until recently, the chat system was almost unusable (MySpace then cloned the facebook chat system)

    The MySpace architecture was just generally fucked, and has always lagged behind Facebook. I don’t know how to put this any other way. And the extent to which people are stuck on it is related to the digital divide.

  7. Eric,

    You keep asserting your subjective opinion that “myspace is fucked” as if it were an <objective fact.

    In your current post, you further assert your opinion that “First and formost, what drives websites like Myspace and Facebook is not that they are about “expressing ourselves” but that are rapidly changing and transforming the mode of communication in society” as if it was a proven fact.

    You are presenting your opinions as if they were facts here – when what we are dealing with here are opinions – to you, myspace and facebook (and other web 2.0 platforms) are important for one reason – to other users, they are important for other reasons.

    And for still other users, there is a discomfort with any proximity to Black or Latino users in cyberspace (much as many Whites are deeply uncomfortable with any contact with Blacks or Latinos in RL).

    And I’m still wondering about your persistence in using the word “fucked as if it’s some kind of technical category?

    Is that some kind of technical term in the world of computer programming?

    Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that you do not like certain technical aspects of myspace, and that you prefer certain technical aspects of facebook, rather than calling myspace “fucked”?

  8. Timo said

    I am very skeptical about many of the claims in this article. Race and ethnicity are big deal in today’s society and very well may have some sort of effect on what social networking sites people use, but the whole internet ghetto thing is a little far fetched for me. Its most likely linked to other things.

    “it wasn’t so much that more privileged people were fleeing myspace but that their relative privilege and superior access to information/technology enabled them to learn about facebook and more quickly migrate away from the fucked architecture of MySpace.”
    -Eric Ribellarsi

    I think it was probably closer to this. Facebook started as an ivy league college thing. Most people going to those schools are white, petty bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie. As facebook grew and allowed more people to use it wouldn’t it make sense that the first people to learn about it as it grew where those in direct contact with who were initially using it? It still has to do with class distinctions and even race to a degree, but not in this “cyber white flight” nonsense.

  9. mediated abstraction said

    I’m a little skeptical about the reason that white folks are leaving myspace is because minorities have pages there. Like a few commenters before me have said, its more of a technical issue combined with the fact that facebook was created to cater to college students.

    Myspace’s notoriety for being plagued with security and spamming problems was probably the largest contributing factor to the flight of their more tech savvy(primarily white) userbase to more secure platforms like facebook or twitter coupled with facebook’s popularity among college students.

    The premise of this study is a good one, however I think that it all has less to do with a conscious decision to move to a site with less minorities and more of a syptom of larger issues like technological literacy(digital divide) and access to higher education.

  10. I think some of the commentators are straining to find a non racial excuse for what appears to be a racial phenomenon – or a racial explanation that, essentially, implies that Black and Latino web 2.0 users are not as smart as White users.

    Considering the fact that we live in a deeply racist country, where for the last 65 years there has been a well documented history of Whites fleeing spaces perceived to be populated by African Americans and/or Latinos, why is it so hard for some to believe that White web 2.0 users would tend to flee a website that they feel is largely populated by people of color?

    To quote the original post:

    “She began simply, noting that “MySpace is just old now and it’s boring.”

    But then she paused, looked down at the table, and continued.

    “It’s not really racist, but I guess you could say that. I’m not really into racism, but I think that MySpace now is more like ghetto or whatever.” – Kat”

    Now, that does not sound like a user who left myspace for tech reasons – she pretty much flat out says that her reasons for leaving myspace were blatantly racial and in fact outright racist

    There’s not much room for ambiguity there!

    Now, I come to this discussion informed by my life experiences – as an African American man who is light skinned enough that I am often mistaken for Latino and occasionally even taken for an Italian, who spent my childhood in a White neighborhood and most of my adult work life in a majority White industry.

    So, I’ve often been in the position of being “incognegro” – mistaken for White in an all White space.

    This circumstance has enabled me to see – far more clearly than most Americans, Black, White or Latino – just how negrophobicaly racist most White Americans are.

    Put it this way – as a direct result of this situation, I know how to say “nigger” in four languages besides the English language [there's Chernom Russian, Schwartze Yiddish Moulinane Italian and Moreno Spanish ]

    So, I’ve come to the conclusion that most White Americans are actually quite racist against Blacks (and, to a lesser extent, Latinos) would, if given the option, prefer not to live among us or even near us, and often go to quite great lengths to get as far from Blacks or Latinos as possible.

    There are exceptional Whites who do not feel this way – but they are few and far between, even among the ranks of White leftists.

    And I have yet to read or hear anything that contradicts the well informed opinion that I’ve formed about the widespread negrophobia and latinophobia among the White American population.

    And that is why it’s quite easy for me to believe that the White flight from myspace is very real and very racially motivated.

  11. TOR said

    I never had myspace and always hated it, as it looked very ugly and made loud noises. Facebook is quiet, more useful and less ugly, though again, I’ve never had a myspace page. I also like how it’s easier to find people on facebook.

    Myspace may be better if you’re into producing music and getting it out there.

    I think there are race/class issues as well, mainly surrounding the digital divide and the fact that Facebook started with college students, though the white flight thing sounds a bit far-fetched and unsubstantiated.

  12. Otto said

    The people who say that Facebook is “cleaner” sound like the same people who want to live where there are those contracts that tell them what kind of roof they can have, how many cars they can have in their garage, what color Christmas lights they can have and so forth. They are not only elitists they have terrible taste in aesthetics. Myspace allows a person to individualize their page and even use a different name if they want to. It’s much more creative. I have Facebook for relatives and friends but I use Myspace to reach people in other parts of the country I otherwise can’t afford to go. I can also be more political since I have a different name there.

    I never thought of it as white flight before, nor have I thought of all the social status people seek in a computer networking system. I just assumed these sites were fads. Anything is possible these days. I just noticed the bad taste in switching rather than the racism, which may indeed exist.

  13. Timo said

    Gregory,

    yes the example given in the article with the teenage girl is on one level about race and could even be blatantly racist. But she says “ghetto” she does not say myspace is for blacks or Latinos or whoever. I think those comments even made by the teenage girl are more related to class then specifically race. I agree with you about how racist American society still is. I am sure that some if not many people prefer their social networking sites do to how they perceive the demographics of those sites. But What me and other people are saying that it is unlikely that a “cyber white flight” is the key behind who uses what social networking website.

    There are simpler reasons relating to the history of the websites and what classes and races originally had access to them as well as preferences over site layout and functionality. The article takes some interviews with teenagers and then throws out some surveys about the demographics of myspace and facebook. It shows that this may be a growing phenomena but lacks the real evidence to support that this is the main reason behind why people choose their preferred social networking website.

  14. Timo,

    The term “Ghetto” has a very clear racial context, both in American society as a whole and in youth slang in particular – it very specifically refers to any one or thing associated with African Americans or Latinos.

    So, when a young White person uses the term “ghetto” it has a clear racial meaning and is commonly used as a racial code word among young Whites.

    So, if it is in fact correct that a section of White youth are rejecting myspace in favor of facebook because they feel that “myspace is ghetto” – it’s crystal clear what they are actually saying ["too ghetto" = "too Black"].

    I don’t understand precisely why it is so important for some to deny this clear social phenomenon – especially when there are clearly and blatantly expressed racist sentiments involved in this situation.

  15. Mike E said

    From the beginning (when I first started hearing about them) people said simply “Facebook is more college track, MySpace is more street.”

    The difference (and the choice of where to hang) is clearly conditioned by class and race. The author, btw, never said it was just “race” or just “white flight” — in America class and race always come intertwined.

    Also: to point that out does not mean that everyone on facebook is a racist. So we can all drop the defensive cringe. And we can note that it is tiresome that every discussion of racial matters gets pulled in the direction of “surely you aren’t talking about little me.” This is not “about you” — it is about social aggregates, trends, culture and structures — and how they operate all around us, and how they operate through us and our own semi-conscious decisions.

    Sure there are many reasons why people prefer facebook over myspace. There are technical and aesthetic reasons, and so on (as pointed out). But it is hard to miss the cultural meanings of how this sorted out.

    I am always amazed (in America) how, whenever someone points out the profound racism within a development, there is a rush to say “how absurd, it can’t be.”

    Even when people say “its cleaner” or “it is less noisy” — it reminds me of people who say “I live in a nice neighborhood.” And it is “nice” — i.e. it is treelined, and safer, and more stable etc. But all of those features are entwined with racial meaning too — which is why “nice neighborhood” is BOTH a description and (wink wink) a codeword in America. And it may not have both meanings to every single person using the phrase, and people may use the phrase “nice neighborhood” without consciously knowing that double meaning, and people may say “nice neighborhood” and not (themselves) be racist, and so on. But, in this society, “I live in a nice neighborhood” is drenched in racial social meaning regardless of what this or that individual thinks when they choose their words or choose where to live.

    “I like that movie theater in the north side of town — its cleaner and less noisy.” Sure, i see. I bet it is.

  16. Timo said

    “The term “Ghetto” has a very clear racial context, both in American society as a whole and in youth slang in particular – it very specifically refers to any one or thing associated with African Americans or Latinos.”

    true but it also has a connotation of being poor. I have heard it used to refer to both, sometimes both at the same time, it really all depends.

  17. I find this entire discussion quite interesting.

    I started off as a user of Myspace, but I found the adds and other crap quite aggravating, never really cared for the visual presentation and, to follow the words of Eric, I thought the site was fucked up and I very quickly grew to dislike it quite a bit. I ended up only using it for about four or five months, and as soon as I could get onto Facebook I jumped ship.

    Perhaps my view of the racial aspect is somewhat scewed, but being an indigenous person who grew up in a mostly black country, with mostly black friends at a mostly black primary and senior school whose friends always have used Facebook instead of Myspace once it was opened up more, I guess I just never noticed an element of white flight to it all. Now I only have one friend who remains on Myspace, a white friend, who used to promote his rap career. However, I see how it could have played a role.

    I also agree with what has been said concerning the role the tech divide in the initial shift from Myspace to Facebook, and of the role played by Facebook initially being something used by the college and university crowds, with the more tech savy, college and university folk being mostly white and petite to grand bourgeoisie.

    All in all though I think the role of technology and of the tech divide, and how race and class play into it, is an important topic of discussion that we one the radical left need to engage in more.

  18. Ty said

    I want statistics! This article is suggestive, but not informative; it’s purely anecdotal, and the author seems to just use quotes that fit his thesis. At least he could have had his interviewees complete some surveys or something, that could be broken down objectively.

    My personal experience (as if we needed more anecdotal evidence!) is:
    I’m a 25-year-old white guy who went to an all-Black urban public school. Five years ago, I think the alumni from my year were split rather evenly between facebook and myspace (with those in college having pages on both sites); now, just about everyone has migrated to Facebook.

    My impression is that age has a lot to do with it. I think if I were in high school, I’d be on myspace because it allows music and the html modifications.

  19. Mike E said

    The “digital divide” was often used as an argument against the internet (in a small sliver of the left i’m particularly familiar with). The idea was that the internet was inherently “petty bourgeois” because access cost money and required a computer… and so using the internet for revolutionary politics “must mean” an orientation of privileging the petty bourgeois. (There was truth to the saying “the information superhighway don’t run through my hood.” but the meanings and implications of that truth are the question.)

    There are a number of things wrong with it:

    1) The printing press in the 1500s was a brutally expensive instrument, whose ownership was inherently limited. But that didn’t mean that printing books (including particularly revolutionary Reformation tracts) wasn’t crucial (even pathbreaking) OR that the content of these works didn’t then “reach the broad masses” through various means. Even when the internet WAS limited to the affluent — it remained an important means of conveying ideas (including to people who could, then, take it further.)

    2) It ignored the changes in access. Over time, the internet became more generally accessible. Even the poorest kids often had access in school (or to be more statistically precise… for many years the “fastest change in internet access” was happening in precisely those people who were previously excluded.

    3) It remains true that (globally) the digital divide is huge. Half of humanity had never made a phone call in 1995 when the WWW exploded (in the “developed world”). In the third world the people with access to the internet were (initially) exactly the same strata who were serving and servicing imperialist domination in those countries (plus pockets of academics etc.) The web in the third world had strings leading back to the metropole. That too has changed. And how it has changed is worth summing up with some detail. But who can deny the fact that DESPITE the inability of hundreds of millions people in India and Nepal (for example)to access the internet — that the emergence of that internet has played a hugely positive role in popularizing and explaining the struggles of exactly those people all across the planet?

    4) The left has always faced a huge “literacy divide” — in that our press and leaflets were often beyondthe reach of the most important target audiences. And that is because those impoverished sections often can’t read well, and (beyond that) have often had little access to the core concepts that make up politics, history, resistance, analysis, etc.

    To argue that we should “stick to newspaper” because “the internet is for the petty bourgeois” is to (crudely crudely) overlook the degree to which our printed newspapers were OFTEN ALSO on the wrong side of a major divide. (I.e. that literacy divide.)

    The internet was sometimes NO MORE inaccessible than the papers that we hoped would circulate hand-to-hand.

    And in that sense that particular talk of “digital divide” was a bogus argument.

    In fact, the multimedia aspects of the “new media” may well help us vault over the literacy divide (if we can ever learn to make regular accessible podcasts, internet radio, DVDs etc.)

  20. I’d like the share some individual experience that I think speaks to this.

    I started out as a MySpace user myself.. and when I knew people who got facebook and would encourage me to do facebook as well, I would tell them I despised that because it made me put my name and I wanted to be more private, and I hated the uniformity and found it boring. And for a long time I put off migrating to that site.

    Finally, I decided I would get both, but not use Facebook much. But when I got Facebook, I suddenly realized thatbecause of it’s uniform naming convention, I was suddenly finding all of these people that I could never locate on MySpace, and because of it’s “friend suggestions” (which has finally recently been implemented on MySpace) people were finding me and I was finding them. In a period of a couple weeks, I ended up connecting with probably three times more people than I had connected with on MySpace in years of use.

    Even though I despised it’s aesthetics in some ways at the time (but later came to like not getting attacked by a virus every time I went to my friends page), Facebook was just fundamentally better as a social networking tool. In almost every way, it was more efficient at connecting people, from it’s ability to figure out who of your friends friends you might know, to it’s ability to easily make it’s chatting function available to everyone, this site was infinitely more efficient as a social networking tool.

    Obviously not to tail the RCP critique of the digital divide that Mike critiqued up above (and I certainly don’t mean this as a critique against the internet), but frankly, there are real inequalities even within the internet as to who finds out or gets access to what when. This is not meant to say the Black and Latino web 2.0 users are less intelligent as Gregory said, but to point out that Black and Latino people were actually originally locked out of Facebook by-and-large by the college-only limitations of the site, and the slow opening up of that site (and the fact that Facebook never reached out to those sections of society with advertising etc.). I mean this as a condemnation of the racism and oppression of this society, not the tech skills of Black and Latino people.

    Calling MySpace a “fucked” architecture was meant as a joke, but frankly, that site was functionally broken for a very long time. Recently it has even acknowledged these things itself and begun implementing many facebook style features. For example, MySpace has implemented a real-name convention combined with the whatever name you want feature, it has added RSS style public walls like facebook, it has cloned Facebook’s suggested friends feature, it has cloned the facebook chat feature, it has cloned Facebooks private messaging style with all messages in a single thread, etc.

    MySpace was just fundamentally functionally broken, and I think concentrating on aesthetics actually misses that actual functional purposes of social networks. As I pointed out earlier, there are non-social networking sites that are about creating pages about yourself which so that much better than MySpace, but most of them are actually dead. Aboutme.com is a great example, that is the ultimate “self-expression” website, but people of oppressed nationalities actually don’t give a fuck about it (and it’s crowd is actually small, mainly ultra-narcissistic, middle class junior high kids).

    This isn’t about aesthetics, its about function. It’s about the way that oppressed people have been locked out of more functional things in the same way that public rail transport goes to middle class neighborhoods while working class neighborhoods are forced to use slow and inconsistent bus routes.

  21. Scott said

    This is not an example of “white flight”.

    Proof:

    Recently it was revealed that 70% of Facebook users are not American. That means that the vast majority of the people are not from Suburbia, but rather from all corners of the world. Perhaps some people have fled MySpace because of the “dominance” of “ghetto” culture there, but if you look at where the racists are on the internet, they’re ALL on MySpace, with very few on Facebook.

    I think the real difference comes down to choice, plain and simple. Facebook is the choice most people have made.

  22. Observer said

    as for “real” names, I know that both I and many friends haveFacebook pages underassumed names, so I’m not sure what people are refering to on that

  23. Observor,

    facebook began with a strict rule that users that users had to choose a first and last name for their account so that other users could find them. In others words, people weren’t allowed to use named like:

    “I GO HUNTING” or “xxxAnimeReferencexxx,” etc.

    This policy led the size of friends lists to grow much more rapidly on facebook because people were finding the people they were looking for much more quickly.

  24. Eli Boulton said

    On the architecture of Myspace – I like the security of being able to check someone’s profile without the risk of a possible endless number of scripts crashing my browser/computer.

  25. bezdomnij said

    To be honest, I switched from Myspace to Facebook because:

    a) There were more people in my social network who were using Facebook than there were using Myspace, and I found it easier to find and communicate with people I actually knew on that site than on Myspace.

    b) Myspace adopted a lot of things reminiscent from geocities homepages…with ugly cutomized backgrounds and themes that take ages to load, and music that begins to automatically play until you find where the stop button is. Not to mention all of the fake profiles, pornbots, spambots and advertisements.

    It is interesting that some minor celebrities have emerged from Myspace (But never facebook), like Tila Tequila who ended up getting a T.V. show on MTV. It was pretty “ghetto”.

    I also know a ton of people on Myspace (who don’t have facebook) who are rednecks (uneducated, reactionary whites), not “ghetto”. I think it ultimately boils down to facebook attracts more students and college educated people – while Myspace attracts and retains those who have not gone to college, and have social networks consisting more of people who entered straight into the workforce, or leanred a trade after high school.

    I could be mistaken, but Facebook also seems to have a more international characteristic.

    There is certainly a racial and cultural aspect to those who are on Facebook vs. those who are on Myspace, but I think it is secondary to the underlying economic and technological aspects.

    For instance, if I wanted to find an old high school friend of mine who I know didn’t go to university…I’d check on Myspace. If I knew they went to a university, I’d look on Facebook first. It’s just the demographic.

  26. Koba said

    The flight from MySpace to Facebook is also a blow to independent musicians, particularly young Black, Latino and international artists that often otherwise would have no method of promotion and distribution. The way that MySpace introduced new music to the world was huge and now there is a gaping void.

  27. jak said

    I agree with Ty. I would be interested in seeing the stats around Myspace vs. Facebook users. Just to throw some more anecdotal evidence out there–I teach at high school where the students are all black and latino . 5 years ago they were all on Myspace. Now they are all on Facebook. I am on Facebook as well, and while I don’t friend present students on Facebook, I do friend former students who have graduated or are adults-and there are a lot of them on Facebook. Some of them are in college, but a lot of them aren’t, but either way Facebook is where they are. I just assumed Myspace had gone the way of Friendster and just faded away, but perhaps that isn’t the case. According to this article though , my students and former students would be prime Myspace users, but I don’t think they use it at all anymore. Facebook comes up in conversations all the time; Myspace never does.

  28. Kyle said

    Eric,
    I am really enjoying your comments and must say that I agree with you on the functional superiority of facebook. Even before I joined facebook in late 2004, I refused to join myspace because of how dysfunctional it was. You really nailed it with post #20.

    “This isn’t about aesthetics, its about function. It’s about the way that oppressed people have been locked out of more functional things in the same way that public rail transport goes to middle class neighborhoods while working class neighborhoods are forced to use slow and inconsistent bus routes.”

    JACKPOT.

  29. jak said

    I conducted an informal poll of my classes this week and I have to retract my previous statement. While many of my students have accounts on both Facebook and Myspace, the majority are solely on Myspace. One student even used the word “ghetto” to describe why they are all on Myspace. So I have to retract my former statememt. It seems obvious that because I only friend former students and I am on Facebook I only friend those former students who are on Facebook. Duh. (Smacks forehead.)

  30. Interesting article, but I find many, many of the points lacking.

    Firstly, my association with MySpace has nothing to do with “ghetto” or “minority,” but with the “MySpace scene whore,” an admittedly sexist terms used to describes males or females who participate in some chapter of the underground heavy music scene, are usually white high school or early college suburbanites, dress in glamorized Hot Topic “scene” clothing and hairstyles, pile on make-up, and post lots of high-contrast shots of themselves from the “MySpace angle” (from above, at a slight diagonal) which reveal their cleavage (girl) or bare body with tats (guy).

    As already previously mentioned, the majority of Facebook users are not even from the US. Additionally, Facebook’s well-organized profile cells (quotes, groups, pages) make it very easy for me to associate my profile with things like civil rights and social justice movements and groups, etc. This was nigh-on impossible with MySpace, not least of all because of its horrible, horrible layout and user interface.

    As far as racial divide on Facebook, I’ve visited fan pages and discussion forums where the users were basically all white and suburban, but I’ve also visited other areas where there was hardly a white poster to be found. So I don’t think even anecdotal evidence supports the idea that minorities don’t use Facebook.

    To Gregory A. Butler: I really appreciate your insight and opinion. Thank you for contributing to this discussion; voices of color are obviously integral to these discussions and need to be heard and valued more. However, I must take issue with something you pointed out. The alleged “words for nigger” in other languages you cited are, well, simply not that. The words you cited in Russian and Yiddish(German) simply mean “black.” The same words would be used to literally speak of the color black in any context. The word “moreno” in Spanish is not considered offensive, and is often used as a culturally endearing term. It is used for anyone of darker skin-tone and certainly has nothing to do specifically with Africans or African-Americans. I don’t know any Italian and can’t seem to find any information online on this word, so I can’t weigh in on that.

    However, I wish to say that, while other cultures and languages certainly have racist and racially-charged words and attitudes, I do not believe that any term in another language is as storied, charged, complex, or destructive as the English nigger. I am fluent in Czech (my mothertongue), and by extension know a good deal of Slovak, Polish, and Russian, I have learned German in college, and have also studied other languages such as Spanish, French, Arabic, and other to various degrees. I am also a student of linguistics and love informing myself on sociolinguistic issues because of my interests and passion for social justice, equality, and peace. From personal, anecdotal and decent degree of linguistic experience, I can say that nigger cannot be translated into any language of which I know and retain its massive network of implications as it does in American English. Yes, even regular day-to-day words can be used pejoratively in English and other languages, but the N-word is a unique elements of English that is even more unique in its cultural, historical, political, and social contexts in the United States of America. Our history of racism, slavery, and particular denigration of blacks in this country gives this word more power and vitriol than, I believe, is possible anywhere else. For further (and certainly better informed perspectives), check out The N Word: Who Can Say It, Who Shouldn’t, and Why by Jabari Asim and Nigger – The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word by Randall Kennedy (if you haven’t already read these great volumes; they’re both rather short and pretty easy to come by at the local library).

    Also, I must quibble with your statement that “most White Americans are actually quite racist against Blacks (and, to a lesser extent, Latinos).” While I do not agree that many whites in this country are very racist, I also believe that most do not realize it because of the level to which racism has become covert in this country. I don’t believe most whites, racist as many are, would say that they’d rather not live around blacks or Latinos of they had a choice. I believe if they had a choice, they’d just want more blacks and Latinos to “act white” (not that this is any better). Also, numerous reports (example) find that discrimination and racism against Latinos is on the sharp increase and is already possibly more common than outright discrimination against African-Americans. This is, of course, not to in aqny way minimize racism against blacks, but I believe because of our current political situation (i.e. controversy over “illegal aliens” and “the south taking over” etc.), mixed with the fact that Hispanics are not only of different skin color and cultural background, but often speak another language (and sometimes no English), buttressed by general xenophobic ignorance found in American culture, the Latino population can no longer be said to be discriminated against “to a lesser extent.” Even the fact that the vast majority of Latinos are Christian and many established Latino communities in America are actually politically conservative has not saved the Latinos in this country from being the target of hate and racism on a large scale.

  31. Should be “while I do agree that many whites in this country are racist.” Sorry for the various typos, etc. Didn’t proofread.

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  33. This definitely makes great sense!

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