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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://kasamaproject.org/2010/02/04/nepals-maoist-army-a-real-and-ready-fighting-force/#comment-20865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So it is worth writing (some times) why a piece like this is made available.&quot;
Agreed.

&quot;I’m not sure what this means Zack.&quot;

I was just making fun of the notion the author makes in the article, or the way I read it...

Leaving the Maoist army away from their former comrades is equated as &quot;going back to society.&quot;

BUT

Being in the Maoist army and having their politics is equated to dogma.

Just thought that made up distinction was funny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So it is worth writing (some times) why a piece like this is made available.&#8221;<br />
Agreed.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m not sure what this means Zack.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was just making fun of the notion the author makes in the article, or the way I read it&#8230;</p>
<p>Leaving the Maoist army away from their former comrades is equated as &#8220;going back to society.&#8221;</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>Being in the Maoist army and having their politics is equated to dogma.</p>
<p>Just thought that made up distinction was funny.</p>
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		<title>By: nando</title>
		<link>http://kasamaproject.org/2010/02/04/nepals-maoist-army-a-real-and-ready-fighting-force/#comment-20860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nando]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zack writes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;But Mike, all I’m good for is stating the obvious.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We all know well that this isn&#039;t true. But I do think that some people don&#039;t undestand why a revolutionary site (like this) would post articles by reactionary forces. Some people wonder if we are agreeing with them, or accepting them as truth. (This comes up all the time -- especially from people who think communists should only post and circulate articles that are communist, or that come with clear labels explaining &quot;what to think&quot; about the piece). So it is worth writing (some times) &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt; a piece like this is made available.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Schools of dogma, Mike.. DOGMA.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not sure what this means Zack. Are you saying &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; response is the result of being in &quot;schools of dogma&quot; or are you saying that the Mike response is a &quot;school of dogma&quot;? Or something else? I&#039;m just not sure what it means.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zack writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>But Mike, all I’m good for is stating the obvious.</p></blockquote>
<p>We all know well that this isn&#8217;t true. But I do think that some people don&#8217;t undestand why a revolutionary site (like this) would post articles by reactionary forces. Some people wonder if we are agreeing with them, or accepting them as truth. (This comes up all the time &#8212; especially from people who think communists should only post and circulate articles that are communist, or that come with clear labels explaining &#8220;what to think&#8221; about the piece). So it is worth writing (some times) <em>why</em> a piece like this is made available.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Schools of dogma, Mike.. DOGMA.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what this means Zack. Are you saying <em>your</em> response is the result of being in &#8220;schools of dogma&#8221; or are you saying that the Mike response is a &#8220;school of dogma&#8221;? Or something else? I&#8217;m just not sure what it means.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://kasamaproject.org/2010/02/04/nepals-maoist-army-a-real-and-ready-fighting-force/#comment-20834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NA did resume recruitment to replace turnover in violation of the peace agreement as noted in comment 2. But the article correctly states that it has consequently remained at 96,000, the same level as when the peace agreement was signed, which is double the pre-war level (not the pre-ceasefire level). Mike&#039;s final paragraph is incorrect on this point.

The Armed Police have expanded, but nowhere near as dramatically as the YCL which is more than a match for it. Overall the military balance remains unchanged until the NA is actually democratized.

But the political balance has shifted overwhelmingly towards the Maoists.

Whether Prachanda&#039;s estimate that 20 out of 27 million would side with them is over optimistic or not, nobody seriously doubts that their organization and mass base has now extended dramatically throughout Nepal since the peace agreement. While the forces &quot;in being&quot; or &quot;real and ready&quot; are decisive in the initial phases of an armed conflict, the latent forces that can be generated over time are decisive for the long term outcome. The PLA grew in 10 years from just one rifle. As always, a focus on the masses has been proved correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NA did resume recruitment to replace turnover in violation of the peace agreement as noted in comment 2. But the article correctly states that it has consequently remained at 96,000, the same level as when the peace agreement was signed, which is double the pre-war level (not the pre-ceasefire level). Mike&#8217;s final paragraph is incorrect on this point.</p>
<p>The Armed Police have expanded, but nowhere near as dramatically as the YCL which is more than a match for it. Overall the military balance remains unchanged until the NA is actually democratized.</p>
<p>But the political balance has shifted overwhelmingly towards the Maoists.</p>
<p>Whether Prachanda&#8217;s estimate that 20 out of 27 million would side with them is over optimistic or not, nobody seriously doubts that their organization and mass base has now extended dramatically throughout Nepal since the peace agreement. While the forces &#8220;in being&#8221; or &#8220;real and ready&#8221; are decisive in the initial phases of an armed conflict, the latent forces that can be generated over time are decisive for the long term outcome. The PLA grew in 10 years from just one rifle. As always, a focus on the masses has been proved correct.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So important to respond to both of Yardley&#039;s last two NYT peices, trying to find time. He does draw attn to the 2 armies issue and implicitely the fact that the regime now in power isn&#039;t abiding by the 2006 agreement. Needs to be pointed out (as the Maoists in Nepal do pointedly) that the UNMIL also states that the govt in power in Nepal now isn&#039;t observing the agreement in terms of 2-armies integration. This issue and the way it&#039;s articulated generally (civilian sovereignty vs military) needs to be discussed more. Not that I have much time right now to do it...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So important to respond to both of Yardley&#8217;s last two NYT peices, trying to find time. He does draw attn to the 2 armies issue and implicitely the fact that the regime now in power isn&#8217;t abiding by the 2006 agreement. Needs to be pointed out (as the Maoists in Nepal do pointedly) that the UNMIL also states that the govt in power in Nepal now isn&#8217;t observing the agreement in terms of 2-armies integration. This issue and the way it&#8217;s articulated generally (civilian sovereignty vs military) needs to be discussed more. Not that I have much time right now to do it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://kasamaproject.org/2010/02/04/nepals-maoist-army-a-real-and-ready-fighting-force/#comment-20817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Mike, all I&#039;m good for is stating the obvious.

Schools of dogma, Mike.. DOGMA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Mike, all I&#8217;m good for is stating the obvious.</p>
<p>Schools of dogma, Mike.. DOGMA.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike E</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, this piece is obviously drenched in pro-system assumptions (including about the permanence of &quot;society&quot; in its current forms).

But i agree with TNL -- the importance here is the fact that the New York Times (mouthpiece of liberal imperialism) writes about this army underscores its continued existence as a potent player in Nepali politics -- and as a particular problem to those who (precisely) want to stabilize Nepali society AS IT NOW EXISTS.

You also get a sense of how the cantonments have been schools of communism -- i.e. training recruits and army cadre as organizers for the revolution. Dispersing them &quot;back into society&quot; will precisely help destabilize that society -- and deepen the possibilities of revolution. (similarly the Long March through 1930s China trained many soldiers and peasants in communist thinking and the goals of the revolution).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, this piece is obviously drenched in pro-system assumptions (including about the permanence of &#8220;society&#8221; in its current forms).</p>
<p>But i agree with TNL &#8212; the importance here is the fact that the New York Times (mouthpiece of liberal imperialism) writes about this army underscores its continued existence as a potent player in Nepali politics &#8212; and as a particular problem to those who (precisely) want to stabilize Nepali society AS IT NOW EXISTS.</p>
<p>You also get a sense of how the cantonments have been schools of communism &#8212; i.e. training recruits and army cadre as organizers for the revolution. Dispersing them &#8220;back into society&#8221; will precisely help destabilize that society &#8212; and deepen the possibilities of revolution. (similarly the Long March through 1930s China trained many soldiers and peasants in communist thinking and the goals of the revolution).</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://kasamaproject.org/2010/02/04/nepals-maoist-army-a-real-and-ready-fighting-force/#comment-20814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;many of those who joined the Maoists did so voluntarily, making the job of integrating them into Nepalese society a different challenge.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Because life in the country side and fighting against the monarchist army was clearly &quot;outside of society&quot;, right? Puuuuhlease.

And again with &quot;coming back into society&quot; bullshit talk:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Even though the Maoist soldiers have remained in the cantonments for three years, the terms of the peace deal have tightly restricted access to them by United Nations caseworkers, allowing almost no opportunities to interview or counsel them. Instead, the soldiers have been subjected to regular political education sessions on Maoist &lt;b&gt;dogma&lt;/b&gt;, something that may make their re-entry into society even harder.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Methinks Mr. Yardley just &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt;, just &lt;i&gt;maaaay&lt;/i&gt; have an motive with none too subtle a bias spewing all over the place in this article, no?

Dude is fuckin&#039; bogaton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;many of those who joined the Maoists did so voluntarily, making the job of integrating them into Nepalese society a different challenge.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Because life in the country side and fighting against the monarchist army was clearly &#8220;outside of society&#8221;, right? Puuuuhlease.</p>
<p>And again with &#8220;coming back into society&#8221; bullshit talk:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Even though the Maoist soldiers have remained in the cantonments for three years, the terms of the peace deal have tightly restricted access to them by United Nations caseworkers, allowing almost no opportunities to interview or counsel them. Instead, the soldiers have been subjected to regular political education sessions on Maoist <b>dogma</b>, something that may make their re-entry into society even harder.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Methinks Mr. Yardley just <i>might</i>, just <i>maaaay</i> have an motive with none too subtle a bias spewing all over the place in this article, no?</p>
<p>Dude is fuckin&#8217; bogaton.</p>
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		<title>By: Tell No Lies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tell No Lies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article is terrible and riddled with errors, but I think it is significant that the NYTimes feels compelled cover the question. It does point to the critical importance the PLA is playing even when confined to the cantonments. And the expansion of the NA, in blatant violation of the peace agreements, should make absolutely clear that the representatives of the old society have no intention of going down without a fight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is terrible and riddled with errors, but I think it is significant that the NYTimes feels compelled cover the question. It does point to the critical importance the PLA is playing even when confined to the cantonments. And the expansion of the NA, in blatant violation of the peace agreements, should make absolutely clear that the representatives of the old society have no intention of going down without a fight.</p>
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		<title>By: CPSA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CPSA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate Jim Yardley&#039;s writing. He can&#039;t get basic facts about the Indian Maoists right (so I bet he used to do crappy work on China too), which leads me to have little confidence in his knowledge about Nepal either. But I&#039;ll read the article (grumble grumble).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate Jim Yardley&#8217;s writing. He can&#8217;t get basic facts about the Indian Maoists right (so I bet he used to do crappy work on China too), which leads me to have little confidence in his knowledge about Nepal either. But I&#8217;ll read the article (grumble grumble).</p>
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