Video: Artists Against Apartheid's "Sun City"
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- Created on Sunday, 28 June 2009 09:29
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A 1985 initiative following "We are the World" -- which brought a more explicitly political and radical edge to the wave of artistic efforts. This happened at a high tide of U.S. war fever (vis a vis the soviet union) -- and represented a lot of positive impulses to focus attention on the struggle and oppression of people all over the world (and the corrupt U.S. role in propping up that oppression).
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Guest (Stanley W. Rogouski)
Permalink<i>I don’t think the US ruling class had an interest in maintaining apartheid in the mid to late 1980s.
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And of course that needs clarification. The US ruling class was support Unita and the Cubans were fighting on the side of the Angolan government. But I don't think this was an issue the US ruling class was going to live or die for.
So on a scale of 1 to 10 (with "Save Darfur" being a 1 and "Free Palestine" being a 10) this is maybe a 4 or a 5.0 Like -
Guest (Jay Rothermel)
Permalink1985 may have been a time of war-fever, but it was also a time marked by massive mobilizations against the apartheid regime in SA itself, and around the world. The movement in the US became so powerful even bourgeois political figures like Ted Kennedy had to get in line for symbolic civil disobedience arrest at the SA embassy in DC.
The big national demos held in DC in the eighties all had a strong, young, militant anti-apartheid component.
Those of us involved at the time in Central America and Cuba solidarity work were thrilled by the Sun City album.
In the eighties I was an active rank-and-filer in two unions, ILGWU and ACTWU, and there were anti-apartheid caucuses in most internationals and many locals around the country. The business agents and skates dared not veto the work.
The anti-apartheid movement was a singing, dancing, joyous movement that found allies at every turn.
Comradely,
Jay Rothermel0 Like -
Guest (Caleb T. Maupin)
PermalinkThe movement against Apartheid was a genuine Anti-Imperialist Struggle.
Nelson Mandella and the ANC were called Terrorists by the U.S. government, and funded by the Socialist Camp.
"Save Darfur" is a Zionist/Big Oil campaign to overthrow an Islamist government allied with the People's Republic of China and Zimbabwe.
By Maoist logic, the same carried out in Iran, Nelson Mandella and the Apartheid government were "two out-modeds." Nelson Mandella and the ANC were "Agents of Soviet Social Imperialism."
I don't think any Maoist groups fell into such logic, but it fits the current analysis of Iran.
On Another Note, I wish the U.S. left had as much political understanding at the people in this video:
http://calebmaupin.blogspot.com/2009/06/video-mass-rally-against-us-imperialism.html
These folks know that Kim Jong Il and Barack Obama are not "Two Out-Modeds." They realize that one represents enslavement to Imperialism, and one stands in its way.0 Like -
On the African National Congress:
Caleb said:
<blockquote>"The movement against Apartheid was a genuine Anti-Imperialist Struggle.... By Maoist logic, the same carried out in Iran, Nelson Mandella and the Apartheid government were “two out-modeds.” Nelson Mandella and the ANC were “Agents of Soviet Social Imperialism.” I don’t think any Maoist groups fell into such logic, but it fits the current analysis of Iran.</blockquote>
This is confused.
The struggle against apartheid was a struggle against apartheid -- a particularly brutal form of colonial/settler domination. There were revolutionary and anti-imperialist forces who opposed apartheid. And, at the same time, some forces fought apartheid <em>without</em> opposing imperialism.
In particular, the African National Congress (ANC) was opposed to apartheid, but not imperialism. And the proof of that is rather simple: ANC helped overthrow/abolish apartheid, and established a neo-colonial order in southern Africa (not abolishing capitalism or opposing the continued imperialist domination of South Africa).
Maoist forces internationally in the 70s and 80s tended to support the forces more radical than ANC (including Pan-African Congress, AZAPO and the Black Consciousness Movement of Steve Biko) -- and correctly criticized the ANC for their conciliatory politics (not conciliatory with apartheid, but conciliatory with imperialism and capitalism in many different forms.)
It is (obviously) confused to argue that it is "Maoist logic" to crudely accuse Mandela of being an "agent" of soviet social imperialism, and then admit that no Maoists followed that logic. How then is it a Maoist logic? We maoists supported the destruction of apartheid, and hoped that its overthrow could be combined with a deep-going revolution that included agrarian revolution and the destrution of imperialist domination. That's not what happened.
It does have to be said that the Soviet Union did have a strategy -- for carving new spheres of influence for itself, for crafting a new and more profitable division of the world etc. And a singificant part of that strategy was to convince (or bribe or pressure) progressive forces to act as proxies for the Soviet Union. And, it is undoubtedly true that there <em>were</em> forces who were acting (precisely and literally) as "agents of Soviet social imperialism" -- and in South Africa, the SA Communist Party was a good place to look for them, but hardly the only place.
And in fact, once the Soviet imperialism collapsed, Mandela emerged (smoothly, smoothly) as the figure for the forces seeking a new capitalist order to replace apartheid in south Africa. So if he ended of as an "agent" of imperialism... it wasn't ultimately <em>Soviet</em> imperialism, was it?0 Like -
Guest (Stanley W. Rogouski)
Permalink<i>1985 may have been a time of war-fever, but it was also a time marked by massive mobilizations against the apartheid regime in SA itself, and around the world. The movement in the US became so powerful even bourgeois political figures like Ted Kennedy had to get in line for symbolic civil disobedience arrest at the SA embassy in DC.
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How has the recording industry changed since 1985?
There were huge anti-war protests in early 2003, and yet when Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks said she was "ashamed" of George Bush and the right wing media targeted her, you didn't hear much protest about it from, I don't know, Bono.
I know you don't have the same kind of mega stars now that you had in the 1980s and the recording industry is concentrating on recruiting younger, more pliable, more interchangable
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But what allowed the Dixie Chicks to be isolated and picked off right in the middle of huge anti-war mobilizations.0 Like -
Guest (Stanley W. Rogouski)
Permalink<i>These folks know that Kim Jong Il and Barack Obama are not “Two Out-Modeds.” They realize that one represents enslavement to Imperialism, and one stands in its way.
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Doesn't the North Korean government REQUIRE people to go to those rallies?
How can you compare that to a rally in Iran which is brutally suppressed by the government yet still goes on anyway?
Or even to an anti-war rally in the United States which is subject to petty harassment by the government (via police pens, permits, arrests of organizers, etc.)?0 Like -
Guest (Zack)
PermalinkWait, so that video was supposed to represent political consciousness in the form of anti-imperialism? You're kidding right?
It looks no different than a boy scouts meeting or a pledge of alligence during a high school pep rally.
But seriously, if a communists only option is to pick what's current considered communism or socialism (China/N.Korea) I'm no communist. When did hereditary god-kings and state-capitalism turn into anything close to socialist? Silly.0 Like



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